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Merrie_England
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:18 am  Reply with quote



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note: this topic was made by text taken from my commerce wanted post to streamline it:

I've recently noticed there's a difference between Big Deuce Axles and Mega Axles from shoes of the same size. . . the Deuce Axles are slightly shorter in total length, and yet have a greater width between the bearing stops, which is perfect for some experiments I'm doing with making custom wheels. They also have slightly narrower ends - so if put in (say) Ninja's, one end will wobble around - at least this is the case for all four of the pairs of Big Deuces I have, although it's a very slight difference since I'd never noticed it in months of using them. Very Happy

I've also noticed that the "slowing" effect of big deuces due to wheel deformation, is a lot more noticeable with heavier heelers (big adults) and almost non-existant with little kids (i.e., a light kid on big deuces in a smooth-floored mall would travel almost as far as on Megas if you gave them the same amount of shove*, and yet a big adult on deuces would slow much sooner than the same adult on Mega's)

* disclaimer: please don't shove kids wearing Heelys . . . that is, not unless they want you to Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:44 am  Reply with quote



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If you want a good trial and error for a nice custom wheel, I would try to make a hard compound of a BD wheel. The soft compound does suck when riding around, but the cool thing is that the BD wheel helps when out on the street. Whenever I street skate (and I mean actually go out on the street) the BD wheel displaces the rocks to the middle, working a little nicer then the rock getting stuck in the shoe like with a regular mega.

And I have noticed the axle thing as well with the BD and the Mega. I don't quite know if there will be any advantages of the axle size or not though.

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Merrie_England
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:08 pm  Reply with quote



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IVI4V3R1CK wrote:
If you want a good trial and error for a nice custom wheel, I would try to make a hard compound of a BD wheel.
Hehe, I'm already on it mate. Very Happy Been working on that one for a couple of weeks now for a Size 12 friend Very Happy

And the advantage to the greater width between the axle-bearing-stops comes when you need to put more bearings on a single axle and still have room for separation (like in custom free spins made with 608 bearings) Smile


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:30 pm  Reply with quote
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deuce= soft, slow, squishy and get disconnected.
megas= soft, fast, squishy and air bubbles.

Hooray Megavertz!


Hooray Heelys!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:18 pm  Reply with quote
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I already posted about the axle thing.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:08 am  Reply with quote



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Good post there slice, I was too lazy to do the pic thing but now I don't have to - if anyone asks I can just point them to your post Smile

What seth said is true. Smile And although they're both 86a durometer compound, deuces seem squishier than mega's so I'd write this as:

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Mega: soft, fast, medium squishy, gets air bubbles and stones, but good in malls.

Deuce: soft, slow, very squishy, get disconnected, less stones, good for street.

rumble: about the same as mega, although some say it's harder, and the bearings are only ABEC-5 so swap them out for speed if necessary.

megavertz: hard, VERY fast if you swap-out the stock bearings, NON squishy, and as Merlyn admits: best used just for vert, as the hardness can send a lot of shocks through your joints on rough ground - the squishiness of deuces does have it's uses in absorbing some of the roughness of the ride. Smile

FATs: slow, but easier to conceal under the shoe, less awkward for beginners to walk in, not recommended for rough ground.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:54 pm  Reply with quote
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yours is too long.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:26 am  Reply with quote
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HAHA. (:
hear hear. or here here. i dunno which it is.

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Merrie_England
PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:31 am  Reply with quote



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It's "Hear, hear!"

But there's no need to be mean to me just because I like to try my best to be helpful and accurate. Sad

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