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i have a couple Qs about FRee spinz

How long have they been out (or if they aren't how long has Dave had them)?

Why make them we have BD?

How are they different from BD?

Do you like pie?

Team Heelys - Midwest Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 8388607

they've been out since late summer (not to public)
BD are no longer made
they are harder than BD
BD the sides are connected
free spin each wheel spins independantly
so its easier to do stuff
and no, i dont like pie

Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 1548 Location: Ohio

BD's suck b/c they're slow, Freespins rock b/c they're fast Very Happy

And yes, I like piiiiiiiiiiiiie Very Happy

Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 192 Location: Wrexham, Wales, UK

i dont like pie unless it's steak and onion pie cuz thats mmmmmmm

Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 10

Anyone got a pic of these Mega-Freespinz wheels or do they look like normal megas?

Thanks,
Drummertist

Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 192 Location: Wrexham, Wales, UK

i hate pieee :/

Actually, my BDs are faster then my megas... It has something to do with friction, I know that... Free spin varies though because BDs spin at the same rate, when free spin spin at two different rates.

If you think of it as a limited slip differential on a car:

When a car is in neutral and the wheels are off the ground, you spin one wheel with the power, and the other wheel, when not locked down on the ground, will rotate the other way around.

It helps, because if both wheels are spinning at the same rate, one wheel is causing drag OR the wheel on the outside of the turn is going to slip.

With a limited slip, when you turn, the inside wheel is doing the pulling, and the outside wheel relaxing in a "neutral" position, making for the turn to be done at a faster pace, without risking the prevention of your tires losing grip, causing a slide out.

From my understanding of vehicles and physics, I feel that the free spins are designed the same way.

When you turn in Megas, you have one wheel that has to be kept on the ground at ALL times, because the wheel does not move itself. With a free spin, that one wheel becomes two wheels, and turns can be taken at a sharper turn, because it eliminates the need to have FULL wheel, but instead, one HALF wheel.

We are also looking at the face with having individual control over two sections of wheel, you can also, but the chances are slight, to have the ability to remain in control at faster speeds.

With four halves of a wheel powering the skater instead of two, you reduce the friction on the individual wheel, either from weight of the skate down to the surface you are riding on. One wheel per skate must distribute the force equally, and though it helps with balance and grip, a thinner tire can help you gain more speed, which is why on distance bikes, they have thin tires, and on hot rod cars, they have the Fire Hawks, because the thicker tread keeps them on the ground.

That's a reason also I believe (eliminating the bearings as a variable) the Big Deuces had mild success, and, in my own opinion, surpass the Mega wheel. Less surface friction means more speed, but less control. Though the spaced out wheel provided better stability then most wheels out during its reign, the Big Deuce fell short when the skater brought the wheel onto slick concrete, and with the, again, less surface area meaning less friction, caused the skater to loose balance. The Mega wheel came over and decided that more surface area means more control due to more friction, which, though it kept the skater in place, allowed for a skater to overcome specific obstacles that would be considered mildly stupid to try with the Big Deuce wheel.

Another reason, again from my own personal observation, the Big Deuce wheel is a difficult wheel to turn on. When you make a turn, though you may not realize this, you wheel is in full contact with the ground, but you have a weight difference from the outside of the wheel and the inside of the wheel. Which ever side you turn on (right putting more weight on the right side), the wheel pressure on the wheel is distributed through out the contact of the ground. With Big Deuces, you are attempting to disperse the full turn weight on a wheel that is not more then three quarters of an inch thick, causing a greater chance of messing up in the turn, or suffering the loss of a sharp turn. With the mega wheel, you have more of a chance to slide the turn sharper, because that pressure is distributed along more surface area, and again, causing deceleration of the turn, but causing for better results with safer and sharper performance.

I'm sure Dave took this all into consideration when he made the wheel, hence its overall success with underground culture of HeelyChat. With the Big Deuces having less surface area, causing for a faster ride, he created two free spinning wheels per set, making the surface area smaller, mimicking the Bid Deuces. He also took into consideration the lack of turning ability the Big Deuces caused, and the lack of speed Mega wheels caused, justifying his actions on slicing the wheel in half.

Looking at a performance rating on the wheel, its domineering on turns, as well as aggressive towards speed, causing this wheel to be the best wheel that can be created for a pair of Heelys at this time, and due to the fact that is has yet to be released to the public (because the umbilical cord has yet to be cut), us skaters without the necessary means of creating a free spin will just have to settle between the advantages and disadvantages of your Mega and your Bid Deuce wheel.

On a side note, I'm not a pie person. I'm more of a cake guy myself. Heck, its the reason I'm getting married. Hour long ceremony, human size cake at the end.

Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 1548 Location: Ohio

Team Heelys - Northeast Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 1803

I like peach pie, that's my favorite.

I like cherry pie.

I don't like apple pie. Not usually. But sometimes I'll still get it from McDonalds.

MDHZ

Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 533 Location: London, UK

Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 192 Location: Wrexham, Wales, UK

Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 533 Location: London, UK